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we live in a reality of phantoms and

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monsters they exist among us and

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sometimes they win

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even the devil was an angel once

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the world has its own rules

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some of us seek answers to the origin

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and existence of cryptids in the

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unexplained

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and accepted boundaries

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welcome to our nightmare i think you're

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hey folks good evening and welcome to

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wt watson joins us again

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and he's a coffee addict and a writer of

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both fiction and non-fiction he infuses

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his work and his expertise in

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cryptozoology monster lore magic for

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tania and the paranormal he brings

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unique shamatic and magical perspective

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to all his work over the 30 years of

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exploration in these topics

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when he is not writing or reading about

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monsters he can be found outdoors

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allowing his dogs to take him for a walk

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around his neighborhood kitchener

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ontario he lives with his spouse stacy

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in a town house said would be jammed

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with books if it weren't for e-readers

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travis recently published the book

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with beyond the free publishing titled

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canadian

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monsters and mysteries and that's what

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we're going to talk about tonight

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and travis thanks for joining me this

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evening

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well thanks so much for having me lance

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it's a pleasure to be back on the show

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and we have bernadette joining us again

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tonight and uh

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so uh she will be having her show soon

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a paranormal life so look for that folks

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should be interesting

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so travis

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hi

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so tell us about the book tell us a bit

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about why you i mean is it just is it

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general

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uh cryptids monsters and whatever rooms

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the the backwoods of uh canada

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yeah these are the questions that i love

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because i can just say yes

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okay

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mysteries in the myths know that that i

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cast my my net pretty wide

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that was my previous book

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this book came about

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specifically because i ended up living

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in canada

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i was born in the u.s

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and recently

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in 2020

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my spouse took a job at the university

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of waterloo here in in ontario

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and uh they're a native ontarian

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we moved up here in the middle of the

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pandemic which was a whole other story

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to tell

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and of course being who i am uh i

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started thinking to myself well i you

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know i wonder what kind of interesting

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things go on in canada

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um because one of the things that

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i noted you know when i moved up here is

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that there's a very definite divide you

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know you have the united states and then

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you have the great white north which a

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lot of people in the state seem to

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assume is this vast ice flow that that

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exists above

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where nobody lives except for for inuit

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and that's just not the case

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canada is the second largest country in

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the world it has the largest coastline

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in the world

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it has over ten thousand lakes that over

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three square kilometers

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vast wilderness areas and most of the

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population of canada lives within 100

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miles of the of the u.s canadian border

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so there are vast vast swathes of

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wilderness area here in canada

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and thus there are all kinds of

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interesting stories to tell

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as i got to exploring these stories i

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discovered very quickly that i was going

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call some things out and maybe break

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those off into separate books

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the sasquatch phenomenon for instance is

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is just wild around here

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although people may not be familiar with

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things outside of british columbia i'm

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that's called beyond bc

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and it will be sasquatch sightings and

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the provinces of canada outside of

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british columbia um

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also the other thing i couldn't cover in

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any detail would be hauntings because

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just here in ontario in the little area

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that i live in in southern ontario

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there's tons of of of you know ghosts

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and haunting stories that

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that i could cover at some point in time

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um i also chose not to uh because uh

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their researchers who have already done

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a great job

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with these phenomena

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decided not to do champ

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which was is being very ably

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covered by another researcher

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and uh uh and when to go which is uh you

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know chad lewis just

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released a terrific book on that subject

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not too long ago so

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um and so you think well what's left and

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i'll say to you

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all kinds of things are left this book

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has cryptids it's got ufos it's got

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phantom ships you name it it's in there

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um and uh and lake monsters

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canada like i said has lots and lots of

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lakes

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and it has tons of lake monsters

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stretching from one end of the country

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i got started on that went down the

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rabbit hole and here we are again

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i um i used to live in hamilton no i

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didn't live there long i lived there

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less than a year i was younger then

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uh but but that time was you know the

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big the big story back then was saint

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catherine's poltergeist story okay and

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uh of course people were talking about

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of course hamilton is

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tucked in between toronto and st

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catharines

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but uh as time has gone on and as i've

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gotten involved and look i took a lot of

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stories even back then from people

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who were telling me a lot of weird stuff

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especially in southern ontario

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but uh the one thing i have found

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more of in anything else in ontario are

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winged humanoids

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and dog name yeah i actually have a

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section um

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do you talk about dogman

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somewhat um and there's i believe

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there's an ontario story in there um i

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have a uh a section in the book on on

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al man sightings in ontario

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uh which you know when we think of the

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alaman we think of cornwall england so

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on and so forth but there were actually

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sightings of

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a owl man type creature in ontario

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dating back to um

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to the 1800s and um

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this creature was said to hang out in

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graveyards and you know wilderness areas

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around dark and

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you know just apparently there were like

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ontario farmers of that time period who

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reported seeing this thing

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which they described as being a sort of

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a tall

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humanoid figure

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with uh either wings that came out of

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the back or actually the arms were were

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wings

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um but

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again as i say several people

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encountered this thing

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several people reported encountering it

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so who knows how many people actually

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did see it

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but that's just one of many

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really bizarre uh encounters that that

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you find in in canada

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like i said i didn't get deeply into

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hauntings for the research for this book

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you know there

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there are forts here that are are

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supposed to be deeply haunted

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there are houses even in the toronto

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metroplex that are supposedly

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quite haunted as well i have had a lot

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of cases in toronto

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i have worked a lot of remote cases in

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toronto that's uh there's certain i mean

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even downtown there's there just seems

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to be a lot of areas to have a lot of

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hauntings toronto's an interesting place

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to just walk the walk the streets and uh

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you know i mean probably the deepest

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layers of history that i've ever walked

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through you know as far as kind of your

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psychic sensitivity thing was new

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orleans um

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i mean you can't

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you can't walk five steps in the french

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quarter without encountering some really

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strange energies here there and

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everywhere

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toronto's got its

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little things too it's not quite as

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in your face about it i guess as as new

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orleans as but um definitely

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you will see uh

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or you will feel as you as you walk

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through some of the neighborhoods

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especially some of the older

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neighborhoods in toronto that there's

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some very active you know spirit

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presences going on there so

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it's a it's an interesting place and

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yeah we've we've had some pretty rough

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poltergeist cases up there and um

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and this has been years ago uh but yeah

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we even some shadow folks shadow people

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and uh

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even the whole way out into uh

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oh god what is that out there just

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before you get into manitoba the lake

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area was that kelowna is that what it is

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forget the name of it colonists in

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i don't know i'm still learning my

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canadian geography honestly he's out

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there

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and uh

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but i you know we've done a lot of cases

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i think you know i think the most

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interesting thing that i've ever heard

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and i have a friend who's a who's

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ontario ontario and he's um he told me

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about the ottawa angel did you ever hear

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that phenomena

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yeah in fact did you cover that in the

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blog i did i did i think it's actually

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in the book too

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yeah it is

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that was a really bizarre story because

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this lady's driving down the down the

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highway

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between one uh one city and the other

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and sees this massive being massive

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winged being basically coming for a

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landing yeah one of the things that

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really struck me about that story was

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okay so well two things actually struck

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me about this story one was

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the sort of shape-shifting aspect to it

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because when she first saw it

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her impression of it was that

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it had sort of missed her legs

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and then as she

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watched it as it came down to land

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it became more and more apparent that

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this thing had legs

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the other thing was

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this is one of those things where you

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look at it you go wait a minute now the

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intelligence behind this

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phenomena whatever it is

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wanted this creature to be seen

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because if it hadn't wanted to be seen

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it could have landed you know a half

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mile away in a forested area and nobody

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would have ever seen it

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yeah but it chose to plop itself down

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right next to a freeway full of cars so

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much so that the the witness in that

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particular case actually you know almost

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ran into uh you know another driver who

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was also staring at this thing instead

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of paying attention to where they were

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going they're on the freeway you know

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it's they're you know 90 90 000

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kilometers per hour in that particular

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area so

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that

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you you hear about it and you know the

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description is that it's it's large it's

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winged being

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you know you called it the ottawa angel

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but

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the the description that this woman gave

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was that this thing had a very uh

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disdainful look on its face almost like

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it's like well you know i i can't be

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bothered with these

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these petty humans you know

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um and so

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you know

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in cases of angelic contact

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the feeling is usually a lot different

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than that

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um so i don't really know what she saw

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um you know

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yeah i mean the the the image that was

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well the sketch that i received was made

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by

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uh somebody else

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who who had uh

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who said they had seen it but they i i

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don't know i don't they really got a

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great look at it but yeah i think they

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went by what her description was

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but from what i understand several

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people had seen it and a lot of people

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didn't come in fact there was a similar

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sighting

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over in the niagara area of new york uh

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along the freeway the road that goes out

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onto the thorough way out of out of

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buffalo

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yeah i wouldn't be at all surprised i

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used to live in angola which is uh okay

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not uh you know a little south of

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buffalo right on the shore of lake erie

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and um so i used that nighty corridor a

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good bit

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um

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i can tell you from experience having

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lived in that area which is we're

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getting off the topic of canada but i'll

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go down this rabbit hole for just a

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minute

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um

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you know particularly around

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you know time periods like halloween or

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samhain or whatever you want to call it

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you definitely

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there were some there were some strange

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things going on in in that state park it

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was evangola state park

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i lived right next door to the park

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um and you would hear

386
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bizarre sounds um

387
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i was walking down the road to go to the

388
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bus stop one morning i heard something

389
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that sounded so for all the world like

390
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the best way i could describe it is like

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a dinosaur dragon exhaling off in the

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woods

393
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now i have no idea what that sound was

394
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could have been some kind of natural

395
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animal i have no idea

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what i can tell you

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now i'm

398
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you know i've done wilderness search and

399
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rescue i've spent you know time outdoors

400
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in the superstition mountains camping

401
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out

402
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in the dark

403
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many many many times right

404
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and it doesn't spook me

405
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i had

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a week

407
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actually two weeks out of the year once

408
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in the fall and once in the spring

409
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where for whatever reason

410
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i could not have my windows open at

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night

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i had to to pull the shades had to pull

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the curtains

414
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um

415
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just completely creeped out couldn't

416
00:16:07,110 --> 00:16:04,720
look out the windows didn't want to know

417
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what was out there

418
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i had to keep the curtains closed and it

419
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was just for a week once in the fall

420
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once in the spring

421
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it's like you know sasquatch migration

422
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time i

423
00:16:18,470 --> 00:16:17,680
don't know

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yeah

425
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could have been any number of things i

426
00:16:26,069 --> 00:16:22,959
will tell you this i have been working a

427
00:16:27,829 --> 00:16:26,079
case in around angola

428
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for about three years now there's a

429
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gentleman whose uh

430
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grandfather owns a campsite there okay

431
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and i think they have trailer parks and

432
00:16:38,550 --> 00:16:35,920
stuff but they have been having

433
00:16:39,590 --> 00:16:38,560
sasquatch issues for years really okay

434
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yeah

435
00:16:44,710 --> 00:16:41,920
i wouldn't be surprised it's a really

436
00:16:45,590 --> 00:16:44,720
dense area yeah a lot like the forest up

437
00:16:47,670 --> 00:16:45,600
here

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um and it it's a

439
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you know i mean

440
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it would be prime habitat for

441
00:16:56,629 --> 00:16:54,079
whatever sasquatch is you know you know

442
00:16:59,509 --> 00:16:56,639
whatever you you you know think that

443
00:17:01,189 --> 00:16:59,519
sasquatches are whatever it is they

444
00:17:03,189 --> 00:17:01,199
seem to like that dense forest

445
00:17:05,350 --> 00:17:03,199
wilderness kind of

446
00:17:07,110 --> 00:17:05,360
of aspect so yeah it would be prime

447
00:17:08,309 --> 00:17:07,120
habitat for that stuff

448
00:17:11,029 --> 00:17:08,319
um

449
00:17:12,710 --> 00:17:11,039
you know we had weird calls and and and

450
00:17:14,309 --> 00:17:12,720
that kind of stuff in the neighborhood

451
00:17:16,069 --> 00:17:14,319
and you know i'm not saying it's one

452
00:17:19,110 --> 00:17:16,079
thing or the other it could have been an

453
00:17:21,590 --> 00:17:19,120
owl for all i know um

454
00:17:23,990 --> 00:17:21,600
we had uh we were standing out on our

455
00:17:24,949 --> 00:17:24,000
back deck one night and there was

456
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something

457
00:17:30,310 --> 00:17:28,720
coming down the road behind us

458
00:17:32,630 --> 00:17:30,320
that we could hear

459
00:17:36,230 --> 00:17:32,640
and it sounded for all the world like

460
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the raptors from jurassic park

461
00:17:41,750 --> 00:17:39,120
and i was like wait a minute what the

462
00:17:44,070 --> 00:17:41,760
hell yeah so it scared my son so bad he

463
00:17:46,310 --> 00:17:44,080
ran back in the house

464
00:17:47,990 --> 00:17:46,320
so i went on i went on a hunt and

465
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apparently there's something called the

466
00:17:52,549 --> 00:17:50,160
northern hawk out that makes a sound

467
00:17:53,909 --> 00:17:52,559
that's very similar to that and i gotta

468
00:17:55,909 --> 00:17:53,919
believe that's what it was because we

469
00:17:57,590 --> 00:17:55,919
had owls and stuff all in in the

470
00:17:59,990 --> 00:17:57,600
neighborhood you know you'd hear them

471
00:18:01,190 --> 00:18:00,000
hooting and hollering all the time so i

472
00:18:02,630 --> 00:18:01,200
got to believe that's what it was

473
00:18:04,630 --> 00:18:02,640
because otherwise we had dinosaurs

474
00:18:06,789 --> 00:18:04,640
running loose out there well that's not

475
00:18:09,750 --> 00:18:06,799
good yeah that would not be good

476
00:18:11,669 --> 00:18:09,760
especially not raptors no

477
00:18:14,950 --> 00:18:11,679
that would not be my cup of tea thanks

478
00:18:18,070 --> 00:18:14,960
that's on my nope list

479
00:18:21,750 --> 00:18:19,350
yes

480
00:18:25,830 --> 00:18:21,760
so in your research have you encountered

481
00:18:27,830 --> 00:18:25,840
any reports about windigos

482
00:18:30,630 --> 00:18:27,840
like i said i left the when to go to

483
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now a lot of people because he just

484
00:18:36,549 --> 00:18:35,120
published a book on that it's excellent

485
00:18:38,870 --> 00:18:36,559
if you haven't read it i highly

486
00:18:40,470 --> 00:18:38,880
recommend it because it's it's got

487
00:18:41,430 --> 00:18:40,480
all kinds of lore

488
00:18:44,390 --> 00:18:41,440
about

489
00:18:45,990 --> 00:18:44,400
in it

490
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um

491
00:18:51,110 --> 00:18:49,520
you know obviously uh the the wendigo

492
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stories are

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part of native american lore in

494
00:19:01,029 --> 00:18:59,679
canada and the northern united states

495
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and

496
00:19:07,190 --> 00:19:05,039
what a wendigo is because there's such a

497
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thing as a when to go psychosis which is

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00:19:11,909 --> 00:19:08,799
actually a

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a mental illness that causes people to

500
00:19:17,590 --> 00:19:14,080
have sort of these horrible

501
00:19:22,950 --> 00:19:20,950
cravings basically

502
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and there's a strong belief amongst

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00:19:29,029 --> 00:19:26,160
native people at the wendigos not only a

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a solid being a

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a spirit of starvation basically but

506
00:19:37,270 --> 00:19:33,919
also is as a spiritual being that's

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capable of possessing people and causing

508
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what you would call when to go psychosis

509
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um there's

510
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tons of stories uh

511
00:19:49,110 --> 00:19:46,640
available and again i refer you to chad

512
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lewis's book because it's got

513
00:19:55,190 --> 00:19:52,480
a pretty exhaustive account of when to

514
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go the places that he went to that were

515
00:20:00,150 --> 00:19:58,000
related to when to go lore and so forth

516
00:20:02,549 --> 00:20:00,160
i highly recommend that book

517
00:20:06,390 --> 00:20:02,559
but um i i did not

518
00:20:08,310 --> 00:20:06,400
run across any when to go stories in my

519
00:20:10,149 --> 00:20:08,320
lor my research really because i wasn't

520
00:20:13,350 --> 00:20:10,159
looking for them

521
00:20:15,830 --> 00:20:13,360
i i just had so much other stuff that uh

522
00:20:17,590 --> 00:20:15,840
you know i decided i would focus there

523
00:20:18,710 --> 00:20:17,600
instead of

524
00:20:24,070 --> 00:20:18,720
going over

525
00:20:27,750 --> 00:20:26,070
so what about the ghost ships i know you

526
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mentioned those

527
00:20:29,669 --> 00:20:28,799
okay

528
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so

529
00:20:36,789 --> 00:20:32,840
you know a lot of people are

530
00:20:37,669 --> 00:20:36,799
um are interested in in paranormal lore

531
00:20:38,549 --> 00:20:37,679
right

532
00:20:41,190 --> 00:20:38,559
um

533
00:20:43,590 --> 00:20:41,200
the subset of paranormal lore

534
00:20:45,669 --> 00:20:43,600
that's phantom ships

535
00:20:47,669 --> 00:20:45,679
is really interesting to me and one of

536
00:20:50,390 --> 00:20:47,679
the most famous cases is up in nova

537
00:20:52,390 --> 00:20:50,400
scotia which is on the atlantic it's at

538
00:20:53,590 --> 00:20:52,400
the atlantic prop one of the atlantic

539
00:20:54,549 --> 00:20:53,600
provinces

540
00:20:58,230 --> 00:20:54,559
um

541
00:20:59,669 --> 00:20:58,240
and this is a a ship it's generally

542
00:21:02,390 --> 00:20:59,679
depicted or

543
00:21:04,630 --> 00:21:02,400
reported as a three-masted

544
00:21:09,270 --> 00:21:04,640
sailing vessel

545
00:21:10,789 --> 00:21:09,280
people that see it

546
00:21:13,350 --> 00:21:10,799
i remember right it's called the phantom

547
00:21:15,830 --> 00:21:13,360
ship of northumberland straight

548
00:21:18,630 --> 00:21:15,840
the people that see this vessel always

549
00:21:21,669 --> 00:21:18,640
see it on fire

550
00:21:23,590 --> 00:21:21,679
one of the books that i i refer to the

551
00:21:26,070 --> 00:21:23,600
couple are there they're in their hotel

552
00:21:27,990 --> 00:21:26,080
room they're getting ready for bed they

553
00:21:30,230 --> 00:21:28,000
look out their window that has this

554
00:21:33,270 --> 00:21:30,240
beautiful view out over the uh over the

555
00:21:35,270 --> 00:21:33,280
straight and they see the ship on fire

556
00:21:38,470 --> 00:21:35,280
and they call up on the you know the

557
00:21:39,590 --> 00:21:38,480
local coast guard and uh and report it

558
00:21:42,070 --> 00:21:39,600
and

559
00:21:43,830 --> 00:21:42,080
the the uh the guard asks them well you

560
00:21:45,110 --> 00:21:43,840
know describe the ship and they describe

561
00:21:46,950 --> 00:21:45,120
the ship and

562
00:21:47,909 --> 00:21:46,960
and they're like oh that's the phantom

563
00:21:49,430 --> 00:21:47,919
ship that

564
00:21:51,590 --> 00:21:49,440
people see out in the strait all the

565
00:21:53,750 --> 00:21:51,600
time it's okay it's not it's not actual

566
00:21:54,710 --> 00:21:53,760
emergency

567
00:21:56,470 --> 00:21:54,720
um

568
00:21:59,990 --> 00:21:56,480
i love that story

569
00:22:03,110 --> 00:22:00,000
uh this thing was so real looking though

570
00:22:06,070 --> 00:22:03,120
that uh a rescue party did launch out of

571
00:22:07,750 --> 00:22:06,080
charlottetown harbor at one point um

572
00:22:09,430 --> 00:22:07,760
approached the vessel

573
00:22:11,190 --> 00:22:09,440
and this was a story that i wish i had

574
00:22:12,870 --> 00:22:11,200
read before because it would have gone

575
00:22:13,909 --> 00:22:12,880
neatly into my book mysteries in the

576
00:22:15,669 --> 00:22:13,919
midst

577
00:22:17,430 --> 00:22:15,679
they have approached the vessel and they

578
00:22:19,110 --> 00:22:17,440
got close enough to where they actually

579
00:22:21,430 --> 00:22:19,120
felt the heat

580
00:22:23,270 --> 00:22:21,440
coming off of this flame and they were

581
00:22:25,909 --> 00:22:23,280
puzzled because nobody was jumping

582
00:22:28,149 --> 00:22:25,919
overboard the vessel was obviously lost

583
00:22:30,470 --> 00:22:28,159
it was in in full flame there was no way

584
00:22:32,390 --> 00:22:30,480
they were going to save this boat right

585
00:22:34,870 --> 00:22:32,400
um they got close enough to feel the

586
00:22:37,510 --> 00:22:34,880
heat and suddenly this fog bank kind of

587
00:22:38,549 --> 00:22:37,520
descends over this this vessel and when

588
00:22:41,110 --> 00:22:38,559
it lifts

589
00:22:42,870 --> 00:22:41,120
it's gone the vessel has completely

590
00:22:45,110 --> 00:22:42,880
disappeared

591
00:22:48,789 --> 00:22:45,120
um there's also a story about this

592
00:22:50,470 --> 00:22:48,799
phantom ship of northumberland that um

593
00:22:52,470 --> 00:22:50,480
one of the ferries that goes back and

594
00:22:55,029 --> 00:22:52,480
forth

595
00:22:57,350 --> 00:22:55,039
between uh the islands of nova scotia

596
00:23:00,070 --> 00:22:57,360
actually you know had a sighting of this

597
00:23:02,549 --> 00:23:00,080
thing and they put radar on it to try

598
00:23:04,149 --> 00:23:02,559
and see if they could get a ping uh

599
00:23:05,029 --> 00:23:04,159
some kind of return

600
00:23:06,149 --> 00:23:05,039
that

601
00:23:08,630 --> 00:23:06,159
uh

602
00:23:11,830 --> 00:23:08,640
that they could verify and of course

603
00:23:13,590 --> 00:23:11,840
they have people watching this vessel

604
00:23:15,669 --> 00:23:13,600
burn

605
00:23:17,750 --> 00:23:15,679
and there's nothing on radar there's

606
00:23:19,909 --> 00:23:17,760
absolutely nothing there so

607
00:23:23,430 --> 00:23:19,919
uh phantom ship of northumberland

608
00:23:26,149 --> 00:23:23,440
straight the great phantom ship story

609
00:23:28,310 --> 00:23:26,159
and oddly enough the uh

610
00:23:30,630 --> 00:23:28,320
the

611
00:23:33,909 --> 00:23:30,640
nova scotia prince edward island and so

612
00:23:35,590 --> 00:23:33,919
forth also have phantom trains

613
00:23:38,789 --> 00:23:35,600
which seem to be

614
00:23:41,750 --> 00:23:38,799
in some cases uh death portals there's a

615
00:23:44,470 --> 00:23:41,760
story from uh prince edward island um

616
00:23:47,750 --> 00:23:44,480
near the town of wellington where

617
00:23:49,669 --> 00:23:47,760
people would um

618
00:23:52,789 --> 00:23:49,679
would see

619
00:23:55,269 --> 00:23:52,799
well the story starts with uh people

620
00:23:57,110 --> 00:23:55,279
having uh celebrating a wedding

621
00:23:59,909 --> 00:23:57,120
and then they're done celebrating the

622
00:24:01,750 --> 00:23:59,919
wedding and then they go to uh

623
00:24:04,470 --> 00:24:01,760
they basically have a funeral for a

624
00:24:06,549 --> 00:24:04,480
young man who's drowned right and while

625
00:24:09,110 --> 00:24:06,559
they're doing this they notice this

626
00:24:11,029 --> 00:24:09,120
train pulling up to the station when no

627
00:24:13,510 --> 00:24:11,039
train is scheduled

628
00:24:15,750 --> 00:24:13,520
and this train makes no sound

629
00:24:19,750 --> 00:24:15,760
there's nobody on board the train but

630
00:24:23,750 --> 00:24:19,760
the lights are on well this begins a

631
00:24:26,149 --> 00:24:23,760
a pattern um in this area of this train

632
00:24:27,830 --> 00:24:26,159
appearing on the tracks and moving along

633
00:24:30,149 --> 00:24:27,840
not making any sound

634
00:24:32,950 --> 00:24:30,159
lights are on but nobody's visible in

635
00:24:36,470 --> 00:24:32,960
the train

636
00:24:39,590 --> 00:24:36,480
and this happens year on year uh

637
00:24:41,669 --> 00:24:39,600
in december typically

638
00:24:43,430 --> 00:24:41,679
and people who lived up in the hill up

639
00:24:45,590 --> 00:24:43,440
in the hills above the tracks would see

640
00:24:47,909 --> 00:24:45,600
the train and some people will try to go

641
00:24:49,269 --> 00:24:47,919
down and get a better look at it but the

642
00:24:51,190 --> 00:24:49,279
people that are standing close to the

643
00:24:54,549 --> 00:24:51,200
tracks couldn't see it but the people

644
00:24:56,630 --> 00:24:54,559
who were still up on the hillsides could

645
00:25:00,789 --> 00:24:56,640
now i found this really interesting

646
00:25:01,669 --> 00:25:00,799
because uh this actually happened in um

647
00:25:04,070 --> 00:25:01,679
uh

648
00:25:07,110 --> 00:25:04,080
as i said in prince edward island it

649
00:25:09,750 --> 00:25:07,120
happened in december which is you know

650
00:25:11,430 --> 00:25:09,760
one of those traditional times of that

651
00:25:14,390 --> 00:25:11,440
period between

652
00:25:15,990 --> 00:25:14,400
samhain like the end of october

653
00:25:17,830 --> 00:25:16,000
early november

654
00:25:19,990 --> 00:25:17,840
through to the winter solstice in

655
00:25:23,510 --> 00:25:20,000
december was traditionally a time when

656
00:25:25,909 --> 00:25:23,520
the dead were more free to walk the land

657
00:25:28,549 --> 00:25:25,919
um so i found it interesting that this

658
00:25:30,710 --> 00:25:28,559
phantom train stopped at a station and

659
00:25:32,710 --> 00:25:30,720
seemed to be picking people up although

660
00:25:34,710 --> 00:25:32,720
you couldn't see anybody in the train

661
00:25:37,269 --> 00:25:34,720
and then would go on

662
00:25:39,110 --> 00:25:37,279
in the month of december

663
00:25:41,110 --> 00:25:39,120
there's another phantom train story from

664
00:25:43,430 --> 00:25:41,120
nova scotia where

665
00:25:46,070 --> 00:25:43,440
people actually were seeing this train

666
00:25:48,029 --> 00:25:46,080
for a period of time

667
00:25:51,830 --> 00:25:48,039
until

668
00:25:54,630 --> 00:25:51,840
a young man or another person actually

669
00:25:56,470 --> 00:25:54,640
died in a railway accident

670
00:25:58,870 --> 00:25:56,480
the train appeared one more time and

671
00:26:02,070 --> 00:25:58,880
seemed to stop at a station and then it

672
00:26:03,350 --> 00:26:02,080
disappeared forever and was no longer

673
00:26:06,630 --> 00:26:03,360
seen again

674
00:26:08,549 --> 00:26:06,640
so phantom ships phantom trains

675
00:26:10,549 --> 00:26:08,559
all kinds of fun stuff you know there

676
00:26:12,230 --> 00:26:10,559
are sea monsters off the coast of nova

677
00:26:13,430 --> 00:26:12,240
scotia

678
00:26:15,430 --> 00:26:13,440
it's like

679
00:26:17,269 --> 00:26:15,440
if you start digging into the strange

680
00:26:19,830 --> 00:26:17,279
stuff in canadian lore you find all

681
00:26:21,669 --> 00:26:19,840
kinds of interesting things

682
00:26:25,110 --> 00:26:21,679
oh you hear all kinds of crazy stuff in

683
00:26:27,190 --> 00:26:25,120
the maritimes i mean oh yeah um

684
00:26:29,510 --> 00:26:27,200
i mean even inland i mean we've had i've

685
00:26:32,710 --> 00:26:29,520
been involved with the habituate bigfoot

686
00:26:33,669 --> 00:26:32,720
habituations up on in nova scotia

687
00:26:38,470 --> 00:26:33,679
uh

688
00:26:39,830 --> 00:26:38,480
from the us who were

689
00:26:41,669 --> 00:26:39,840
stationed at the goose bay up in

690
00:26:43,750 --> 00:26:41,679
labrador and they'd be doing training

691
00:26:45,510 --> 00:26:43,760
with the canadian troops and maybe

692
00:26:47,190 --> 00:26:45,520
running into all kinds of stuff up there

693
00:26:49,350 --> 00:26:47,200
i mean just not bigfoot all kinds of

694
00:26:52,310 --> 00:26:49,360
other things yeah goose bay's famous for

695
00:26:54,230 --> 00:26:52,320
its uh ufo encounters too absolutely and

696
00:26:55,830 --> 00:26:54,240
uh let me talk about nova scotia you

697
00:27:00,230 --> 00:26:55,840
gotta think of uh

698
00:27:01,510 --> 00:27:00,240
then oh yeah the usos and everything

699
00:27:04,390 --> 00:27:01,520
there yeah

700
00:27:06,310 --> 00:27:04,400
yeah that's a great story it is and

701
00:27:08,870 --> 00:27:06,320
again that one's included in the book as

702
00:27:09,669 --> 00:27:08,880
well i've got sag harbor or shag harbor

703
00:27:14,310 --> 00:27:09,679
and

704
00:27:17,029 --> 00:27:14,320
incident are both in the book along with

705
00:27:18,310 --> 00:27:17,039
several other quite a number of other

706
00:27:20,389 --> 00:27:18,320
stories

707
00:27:22,230 --> 00:27:20,399
stephen mihaly can you tell a bit about

708
00:27:23,430 --> 00:27:22,240
the folks a bit about that uh about

709
00:27:25,830 --> 00:27:23,440
falcon lake

710
00:27:28,549 --> 00:27:25,840
yeah so so this guy

711
00:27:31,590 --> 00:27:28,559
is an engineering sort of fellow right

712
00:27:34,389 --> 00:27:31,600
so all i can figure from reading the

713
00:27:35,190 --> 00:27:34,399
various accounts of this this incident

714
00:27:37,190 --> 00:27:35,200
um

715
00:27:40,389 --> 00:27:37,200
is that this guy must have run around

716
00:27:41,990 --> 00:27:40,399
with a whole bag full of instrumentation

717
00:27:44,630 --> 00:27:42,000
um because

718
00:27:46,789 --> 00:27:44,640
so he's out uh at falcon lake which is

719
00:27:48,870 --> 00:27:46,799
in manitoba and

720
00:27:50,149 --> 00:27:48,880
he's doing some amateur prospecting

721
00:27:53,510 --> 00:27:50,159
stuff

722
00:27:54,950 --> 00:27:53,520
um and he sees if i recall three of

723
00:27:56,789 --> 00:27:54,960
these vessels

724
00:27:59,750 --> 00:27:56,799
approaching the lake

725
00:28:02,230 --> 00:27:59,760
and uh two of them continue on in

726
00:28:03,750 --> 00:28:02,240
different directions and he's puzzled by

727
00:28:05,190 --> 00:28:03,760
these because he has no idea what they

728
00:28:07,190 --> 00:28:05,200
are

729
00:28:10,230 --> 00:28:07,200
a third one actually comes in for

730
00:28:12,310 --> 00:28:10,240
landing not too far from where he's

731
00:28:14,789 --> 00:28:12,320
where he's doing his

732
00:28:17,669 --> 00:28:14,799
prospecting

733
00:28:21,190 --> 00:28:17,679
wise man that he is he hides in a bush

734
00:28:24,789 --> 00:28:21,200
for a while and he observes this thing

735
00:28:27,269 --> 00:28:24,799
um so you know so your classic dish dis

736
00:28:30,710 --> 00:28:27,279
shape sort of flying saucer thing that

737
00:28:31,750 --> 00:28:30,720
landed on the shore falcon lake

738
00:28:34,950 --> 00:28:31,760
his

739
00:28:37,269 --> 00:28:34,960
testimony was that it was seemed to be

740
00:28:39,750 --> 00:28:37,279
super hot

741
00:28:42,870 --> 00:28:39,760
like there were waves of heat coming off

742
00:28:44,149 --> 00:28:42,880
of the uh off of the object

743
00:28:45,669 --> 00:28:44,159
he observed this thing for something

744
00:28:47,669 --> 00:28:45,679
like 30 minutes

745
00:28:51,669 --> 00:28:47,679
um

746
00:28:54,230 --> 00:28:51,679
and saw a hatch open inside of it

747
00:28:57,269 --> 00:28:54,240
he thought that he heard voices so he

748
00:29:00,149 --> 00:28:57,279
finally comes out from cover

749
00:29:02,549 --> 00:29:00,159
he walks up close to this

750
00:29:03,909 --> 00:29:02,559
ship vessel craft whatever you want to

751
00:29:05,510 --> 00:29:03,919
call it

752
00:29:08,710 --> 00:29:05,520
and he

753
00:29:10,870 --> 00:29:08,720
greets whoever's inside and you can see

754
00:29:13,190 --> 00:29:10,880
in there's like control panels and that

755
00:29:15,190 --> 00:29:13,200
sort of thing greets whoever's inside

756
00:29:17,590 --> 00:29:15,200
guy speaks several different languages

757
00:29:18,389 --> 00:29:17,600
so it's like english and russian german

758
00:29:20,470 --> 00:29:18,399
and

759
00:29:22,230 --> 00:29:20,480
maybe italian i don't remember all the

760
00:29:23,909 --> 00:29:22,240
different languages but four or five

761
00:29:25,350 --> 00:29:23,919
different languages that he speaks to

762
00:29:27,430 --> 00:29:25,360
these people

763
00:29:28,310 --> 00:29:27,440
or or he speaks

764
00:29:31,269 --> 00:29:28,320
in

765
00:29:32,789 --> 00:29:31,279
this

766
00:29:33,750 --> 00:29:32,799
craft

767
00:29:36,549 --> 00:29:33,760
um

768
00:29:38,230 --> 00:29:36,559
as soon as he does this the thing

769
00:29:41,190 --> 00:29:38,240
the hatch seals

770
00:29:43,510 --> 00:29:41,200
and he notes that it's all it's as as if

771
00:29:45,350 --> 00:29:43,520
there was no door there at all uh

772
00:29:46,630 --> 00:29:45,360
there's no seam there's nothing that he

773
00:29:48,630 --> 00:29:46,640
can see you know it's a little

774
00:29:50,870 --> 00:29:48,640
engineering you know i can almost see

775
00:29:52,070 --> 00:29:50,880
him taking his magnifying glass out

776
00:29:53,830 --> 00:29:52,080
looking right

777
00:29:56,230 --> 00:29:53,840
there's no seam that he can find where

778
00:29:58,149 --> 00:29:56,240
this door was previously

779
00:30:00,070 --> 00:29:58,159
um it turns

780
00:30:02,070 --> 00:30:00,080
and

781
00:30:04,310 --> 00:30:02,080
we don't know if it's a propulsion or if

782
00:30:06,630 --> 00:30:04,320
it's an exhaustment or whatever but he

783
00:30:10,310 --> 00:30:06,640
gets blasted by hot air coming out of

784
00:30:13,669 --> 00:30:10,320
this vent sort of of

785
00:30:15,269 --> 00:30:13,679
aperture on on the uh

786
00:30:18,710 --> 00:30:15,279
on the ufo

787
00:30:20,549 --> 00:30:18,720
it sets his clothes on fire

788
00:30:22,549 --> 00:30:20,559
it knocks him to the ground and this

789
00:30:24,630 --> 00:30:22,559
this thing takes off into the sky and

790
00:30:26,549 --> 00:30:24,640
and flies away and he rolls around and

791
00:30:27,909 --> 00:30:26,559
puts the fire out

792
00:30:29,830 --> 00:30:27,919
must have been a pretty tough guy

793
00:30:31,830 --> 00:30:29,840
because he gets up and he walks off you

794
00:30:33,909 --> 00:30:31,840
know he's like oh well i've had enough

795
00:30:36,310 --> 00:30:33,919
of this oh i forgot to mention one thing

796
00:30:38,230 --> 00:30:36,320
he gets close enough to this ufo to

797
00:30:41,350 --> 00:30:38,240
actually touch it

798
00:30:43,750 --> 00:30:41,360
and he does that with

799
00:30:46,950 --> 00:30:43,760
special gloves that he had in his magic

800
00:30:50,310 --> 00:30:47,909
and

801
00:30:52,789 --> 00:30:50,320
the thing is so hot that that the glove

802
00:30:53,750 --> 00:30:52,799
literally slides off and like melts off

803
00:30:57,269 --> 00:30:53,760
of it

804
00:30:59,430 --> 00:30:57,279
um so he's you know like oh wow you know

805
00:31:00,630 --> 00:30:59,440
okay i don't want to lay a bare hand on

806
00:31:02,389 --> 00:31:00,640
this thing

807
00:31:05,590 --> 00:31:02,399
um

808
00:31:07,750 --> 00:31:05,600
it takes off it vents on him sets his

809
00:31:10,950 --> 00:31:07,760
clothes on fire he goes off

810
00:31:12,389 --> 00:31:10,960
uh he puts the fire out um he goes back

811
00:31:14,230 --> 00:31:12,399
to his vehicle

812
00:31:17,509 --> 00:31:14,240
um by the point he get by the time he

813
00:31:20,789 --> 00:31:17,519
gets back there he's feeling really ill

814
00:31:22,549 --> 00:31:20,799
and you know long story short um he ends

815
00:31:25,190 --> 00:31:22,559
up in the hospital

816
00:31:26,230 --> 00:31:25,200
um if i recall he lost something like 20

817
00:31:28,950 --> 00:31:26,240
pounds

818
00:31:30,630 --> 00:31:28,960
and uh his doctors were were like i

819
00:31:32,710 --> 00:31:30,640
we're not sure what the heck happened to

820
00:31:33,830 --> 00:31:32,720
him but it looks like he had some sort

821
00:31:36,470 --> 00:31:33,840
of yeah

822
00:31:39,830 --> 00:31:36,480
looked like he had uh you know radiation

823
00:31:42,230 --> 00:31:39,840
burns is basically what the the the

824
00:31:43,990 --> 00:31:42,240
doctors concluded was wrong with him

825
00:31:45,909 --> 00:31:44,000
and he uh

826
00:31:47,430 --> 00:31:45,919
you know he had those scars that you're

827
00:31:48,950 --> 00:31:47,440
seeing in the picture

828
00:31:49,750 --> 00:31:48,960
um

829
00:31:51,750 --> 00:31:49,760
for

830
00:31:54,710 --> 00:31:51,760
quite a number of years uh the the

831
00:31:56,950 --> 00:31:54,720
lorenzens who did uh some research into

832
00:31:58,710 --> 00:31:56,960
this case actually talked spoke with him

833
00:32:00,470 --> 00:31:58,720
and he still had the scars at that time

834
00:32:01,430 --> 00:32:00,480
several years later

835
00:32:03,909 --> 00:32:01,440
um so

836
00:32:05,110 --> 00:32:03,919
you know it's a very up close very

837
00:32:07,909 --> 00:32:05,120
personal

838
00:32:10,230 --> 00:32:07,919
uh he didn't see any entities coming out

839
00:32:12,710 --> 00:32:10,240
of the craft or in the craft but

840
00:32:15,029 --> 00:32:12,720
he got really close to this thing and he

841
00:32:16,789 --> 00:32:15,039
paid the price for it yeah

842
00:32:20,230 --> 00:32:16,799
yeah it's an interesting case it really

843
00:32:20,950 --> 00:32:20,240
is um i mean as far as actual contact

844
00:32:25,830 --> 00:32:20,960
with

845
00:32:28,470 --> 00:32:25,840
the scars to prove it and yeah

846
00:32:30,310 --> 00:32:28,480
yeah he even had welding glasses in his

847
00:32:31,909 --> 00:32:30,320
little bag of tricks right so he was

848
00:32:35,350 --> 00:32:31,919
looking at this thing you know when it

849
00:32:36,710 --> 00:32:35,360
was i i was i was was amazed at the

850
00:32:39,350 --> 00:32:36,720
number of things that he pulled out of

851
00:32:43,909 --> 00:32:39,360
this bag during the course of the um

852
00:32:48,630 --> 00:32:46,950
an interesting thing about canada though

853
00:32:50,630 --> 00:32:48,640
is a lot of people don't know is that

854
00:32:52,389 --> 00:32:50,640
canada has a pretty advanced aerospace

855
00:32:54,710 --> 00:32:52,399
program

856
00:32:56,630 --> 00:32:54,720
and there was actually a company if i

857
00:33:00,549 --> 00:32:56,640
remember right it was called avro that

858
00:33:04,230 --> 00:33:00,559
was trying to develop in the 50s or 60s

859
00:33:07,509 --> 00:33:04,240
of a circular flying craft

860
00:33:08,870 --> 00:33:07,519
now they gave it up as a as a loss

861
00:33:10,389 --> 00:33:08,880
according to

862
00:33:13,669 --> 00:33:10,399
official sources

863
00:33:15,990 --> 00:33:13,679
but you know the the falcon lake story

864
00:33:17,909 --> 00:33:16,000
makes me wonder if uh you know somebody

865
00:33:19,430 --> 00:33:17,919
in the government might not have thought

866
00:33:21,430 --> 00:33:19,440
that this was still a great idea and

867
00:33:25,909 --> 00:33:21,440
been experimenting with this uh with

868
00:33:30,230 --> 00:33:29,509
after the avro program closed down

869
00:33:32,470 --> 00:33:30,240
so

870
00:33:34,070 --> 00:33:32,480
you know because obviously he ran into

871
00:33:37,029 --> 00:33:34,080
something that really

872
00:33:39,669 --> 00:33:37,039
uh really toasted that's a great picture

873
00:33:41,350 --> 00:33:39,679
yeah i've never seen that one before

874
00:33:43,269 --> 00:33:41,360
you know he ran into something that

875
00:33:46,149 --> 00:33:43,279
really toasted him and had a very

876
00:33:48,310 --> 00:33:46,159
physical effect on him so

877
00:33:49,750 --> 00:33:48,320
there's lots and lots of

878
00:33:51,029 --> 00:33:49,760
this

879
00:33:52,549 --> 00:33:51,039
i'm sorry

880
00:33:53,909 --> 00:33:52,559
i've actually never seen any of this

881
00:33:56,470 --> 00:33:53,919
it's the first time i've ever heard of

882
00:33:58,070 --> 00:33:56,480
this so yeah that's that's those those

883
00:33:59,110 --> 00:33:58,080
are some good pictures

884
00:34:03,669 --> 00:33:59,120
um

885
00:34:05,990 --> 00:34:03,679
there's actually a ton of you there's

886
00:34:07,909 --> 00:34:06,000
several sections of ufo stuff in in the

887
00:34:12,950 --> 00:34:07,919
book

888
00:34:17,909 --> 00:34:16,470
the same kind of aspect as ufos in in

889
00:34:20,629 --> 00:34:17,919
the united states seem to be really

890
00:34:22,149 --> 00:34:20,639
interested in nuclear power and nuclear

891
00:34:26,230 --> 00:34:22,159
weapons

892
00:34:28,389 --> 00:34:26,240
um yeah as i mentioned there was a uh

893
00:34:30,710 --> 00:34:28,399
there were more than one sighting up in

894
00:34:34,149 --> 00:34:30,720
the the goose bay area up in uh

895
00:34:35,829 --> 00:34:34,159
newfoundland newfoundland labrador my

896
00:34:37,430 --> 00:34:35,839
dad was stationed up there in the early

897
00:34:39,109 --> 00:34:37,440
50s oh yeah

898
00:34:40,230 --> 00:34:39,119
yeah so

899
00:34:45,589 --> 00:34:40,240
yeah

900
00:34:49,030 --> 00:34:45,599
but then i got a uh i talked to several

901
00:34:50,790 --> 00:34:49,040
several service people who did um

902
00:34:54,389 --> 00:34:50,800
well they i guess they did whack with a

903
00:34:56,389 --> 00:34:54,399
lot of the canadian forces up there yeah

904
00:34:57,190 --> 00:34:56,399
yeah yeah there's a joint military task

905
00:34:59,510 --> 00:34:57,200
force

906
00:35:00,550 --> 00:34:59,520
up in that area so uh you know there

907
00:35:02,710 --> 00:35:00,560
there were

908
00:35:05,430 --> 00:35:02,720
lots of canadian forces people up there

909
00:35:07,589 --> 00:35:05,440
as well as lots of u.s people and

910
00:35:09,109 --> 00:35:07,599
apparently the u.s military used that as

911
00:35:11,109 --> 00:35:09,119
a as a waste

912
00:35:13,190 --> 00:35:11,119
kind of refueling station for planes

913
00:35:14,790 --> 00:35:13,200
that were coming across the atlantic

914
00:35:16,870 --> 00:35:14,800
um

915
00:35:19,109 --> 00:35:16,880
you know to to then continue on uh one

916
00:35:20,230 --> 00:35:19,119
of the stories was uh

917
00:35:23,190 --> 00:35:20,240
uh

918
00:35:24,790 --> 00:35:23,200
i think it was a c-130 um

919
00:35:29,109 --> 00:35:24,800
no it was a jet aircraft i don't

920
00:35:34,150 --> 00:35:31,750
yeah cargo plane crashed up there yeah

921
00:35:37,510 --> 00:35:34,160
yeah so there's there's all kinds of

922
00:35:41,510 --> 00:35:37,520
stories of ufos up that direction

923
00:35:42,630 --> 00:35:41,520
there's a great story from from montreal

924
00:35:46,310 --> 00:35:42,640
quebec

925
00:35:50,069 --> 00:35:46,320
of uh like a giant mothership type

926
00:35:52,710 --> 00:35:50,079
ufo that appeared over a major hotel

927
00:35:53,670 --> 00:35:52,720
in uh in downtown montreal

928
00:35:55,670 --> 00:35:53,680
um

929
00:35:57,349 --> 00:35:55,680
i think that was covered on the tv show

930
00:35:58,470 --> 00:35:57,359
sightings

931
00:36:00,150 --> 00:35:58,480
but

932
00:36:03,589 --> 00:36:00,160
you know they had

933
00:36:06,470 --> 00:36:03,599
the hotel security as witnesses they had

934
00:36:09,670 --> 00:36:06,480
uh montreal police's witnesses they had

935
00:36:12,470 --> 00:36:09,680
the local rcmp officer up there all of

936
00:36:14,630 --> 00:36:12,480
them standing looking at this giant

937
00:36:16,630 --> 00:36:14,640
whatever it was set of lights that were

938
00:36:18,870 --> 00:36:16,640
hovering over this hotel

939
00:36:21,589 --> 00:36:18,880
that uh you know eventually drifted off

940
00:36:23,349 --> 00:36:21,599
into uh into the the drive the snow that

941
00:36:26,470 --> 00:36:23,359
was starting to fall

942
00:36:29,829 --> 00:36:26,480
interestingly enough after that incident

943
00:36:29,839 --> 00:36:33,349
there was a power outage

944
00:36:33,359 --> 00:36:38,470
not far from that area and the only

945
00:36:42,550 --> 00:36:40,870
power trunk line that was affected

946
00:36:44,950 --> 00:36:42,560
was a trunk line that went to one of the

947
00:36:46,630 --> 00:36:44,960
local military bases that stored nuclear

948
00:36:48,310 --> 00:36:46,640
weapons

949
00:36:50,069 --> 00:36:48,320
so

950
00:36:51,990 --> 00:36:50,079
it's like okay

951
00:36:55,109 --> 00:36:52,000
maybe they don't like nuclear weapons

952
00:36:56,870 --> 00:36:55,119
there's also some ufo sightings close to

953
00:36:58,790 --> 00:36:56,880
nuclear power plants

954
00:37:00,790 --> 00:36:58,800
in ontario

955
00:37:02,790 --> 00:37:00,800
um one where

956
00:37:05,349 --> 00:37:02,800
it actually made it into the log of the

957
00:37:07,670 --> 00:37:05,359
nuclear plant you know ufo seen today at

958
00:37:09,349 --> 00:37:07,680
0.7

959
00:37:11,910 --> 00:37:09,359
they actually logged it in their in

960
00:37:12,790 --> 00:37:11,920
their their uh their duty log for the

961
00:37:14,790 --> 00:37:12,800
day

962
00:37:16,870 --> 00:37:14,800
the interesting thing about that one was

963
00:37:18,310 --> 00:37:16,880
this thing dropped something into the

964
00:37:20,230 --> 00:37:18,320
lake

965
00:37:22,230 --> 00:37:20,240
um and

966
00:37:24,230 --> 00:37:22,240
uh then there were several witnesses

967
00:37:26,390 --> 00:37:24,240
that testified that it kept coming back

968
00:37:28,310 --> 00:37:26,400
and seemed to be looking for whatever it

969
00:37:29,670 --> 00:37:28,320
dropped in the lake

970
00:37:30,870 --> 00:37:29,680
um

971
00:37:32,550 --> 00:37:30,880
you know now of course everybody says

972
00:37:35,750 --> 00:37:32,560
well they must have dropped a probe to

973
00:37:37,430 --> 00:37:35,760
monitor the nuclear power plant

974
00:37:38,950 --> 00:37:37,440
i'm always like this is one of the

975
00:37:42,470 --> 00:37:38,960
things that really puts me off the

976
00:37:44,950 --> 00:37:42,480
extraterrestrial hypothesis if a really

977
00:37:47,589 --> 00:37:44,960
super advanced

978
00:37:49,750 --> 00:37:47,599
race of people from another

979
00:37:51,910 --> 00:37:49,760
planet or another galaxy or whatever who

980
00:37:54,390 --> 00:37:51,920
were capable of bridging interstellar

981
00:37:56,310 --> 00:37:54,400
space and reaching our planet

982
00:37:59,990 --> 00:37:56,320
and hanging out with us featherless

983
00:38:04,150 --> 00:38:02,310
a group of people with technology like

984
00:38:06,790 --> 00:38:04,160
that should be able to find their own

985
00:38:07,910 --> 00:38:06,800
probe when they come back to look for it

986
00:38:09,910 --> 00:38:07,920
you would think

987
00:38:11,750 --> 00:38:09,920
better yet why do they need to drop a

988
00:38:13,670 --> 00:38:11,760
probe at all why don't they just fly

989
00:38:15,349 --> 00:38:13,680
over the power plant and take readings

990
00:38:16,950 --> 00:38:15,359
you know it's like it's not like we can

991
00:38:18,950 --> 00:38:16,960
do anything about it

992
00:38:20,710 --> 00:38:18,960
none of our military ever been able to

993
00:38:22,310 --> 00:38:20,720
catch one of these things

994
00:38:23,270 --> 00:38:22,320
not even close

995
00:38:24,390 --> 00:38:23,280
so

996
00:38:26,550 --> 00:38:24,400
you know

997
00:38:28,150 --> 00:38:26,560
but i've got a question from uh moon

998
00:38:29,829 --> 00:38:28,160
medicine for i think they tried to get

999
00:38:30,710 --> 00:38:29,839
me asked this question a couple weeks

1000
00:38:34,790 --> 00:38:30,720
ago

1001
00:38:36,790 --> 00:38:34,800
any reports of dog men on spacecraft

1002
00:38:38,550 --> 00:38:36,800
not that i know of yeah not that i know

1003
00:38:40,630 --> 00:38:38,560
of either i am

1004
00:38:42,150 --> 00:38:40,640
i've had some dogman sightings up there

1005
00:38:44,710 --> 00:38:42,160
but i never had anything involved with a

1006
00:38:48,390 --> 00:38:44,720
spacecraft i haven't had

1007
00:38:50,630 --> 00:38:48,400
i haven't and dog men are one of my yeah

1008
00:38:53,109 --> 00:38:50,640
i prefer man wolf but you know dog men

1009
00:38:55,670 --> 00:38:53,119
are one of my um because dog men is kind

1010
00:38:57,109 --> 00:38:55,680
of like bigfoot you know i i rarely use

1011
00:38:59,349 --> 00:38:57,119
the term bigfoot

1012
00:39:01,589 --> 00:38:59,359
i like sasquatch a whole lot better uh

1013
00:39:03,910 --> 00:39:01,599
just because it seems

1014
00:39:06,950 --> 00:39:03,920
i'm an animist you know so i have this

1015
00:39:08,870 --> 00:39:06,960
this thing about being respectful to

1016
00:39:10,470 --> 00:39:08,880
beings you know whether they're

1017
00:39:11,829 --> 00:39:10,480
spiritual beings physical beings or

1018
00:39:13,829 --> 00:39:11,839
whatever

1019
00:39:16,870 --> 00:39:13,839
so the dog man thing

1020
00:39:19,510 --> 00:39:16,880
is one of my uh

1021
00:39:21,190 --> 00:39:19,520
areas of of obsession i guess i mean

1022
00:39:22,470 --> 00:39:21,200
those of us who know

1023
00:39:25,109 --> 00:39:22,480
uh

1024
00:39:27,349 --> 00:39:25,119
you know who who have have followed my

1025
00:39:29,510 --> 00:39:27,359
career know my first dog my first book

1026
00:39:32,230 --> 00:39:29,520
was on phantom black dogs

1027
00:39:34,710 --> 00:39:32,240
um and i did do a lot of research

1028
00:39:38,630 --> 00:39:34,720
reading linda godfrey and those kinds of

1029
00:39:40,870 --> 00:39:38,640
authors about about dogman i have never

1030
00:39:43,910 --> 00:39:40,880
you know there are reports of sasquatch

1031
00:39:45,670 --> 00:39:43,920
being seen in conjunction with anomalous

1032
00:39:47,510 --> 00:39:45,680
lights and ufos but i've never run

1033
00:39:49,750 --> 00:39:47,520
across anything about

1034
00:39:52,710 --> 00:39:49,760
about the manual for the dog band being

1035
00:39:54,950 --> 00:39:52,720
associated with either ufos or

1036
00:39:56,870 --> 00:39:54,960
any other kind of flying craft or even

1037
00:39:58,710 --> 00:39:56,880
anomalous lights really

1038
00:40:00,470 --> 00:39:58,720
they seem to be a thing all they seem to

1039
00:40:02,710 --> 00:40:00,480
be a thing all their own

1040
00:40:05,829 --> 00:40:02,720
i've got a um my next book is going to

1041
00:40:08,069 --> 00:40:05,839
be on cryptic canines okay and i don't

1042
00:40:09,750 --> 00:40:08,079
know if i don't think i've ever come

1043
00:40:10,950 --> 00:40:09,760
across any of that you know i might go

1044
00:40:12,790 --> 00:40:10,960
back and

1045
00:40:15,109 --> 00:40:12,800
go through all the archives and the

1046
00:40:17,829 --> 00:40:15,119
research and find one but i can't off

1047
00:40:19,589 --> 00:40:17,839
hand i can't think of them yeah i

1048
00:40:21,910 --> 00:40:19,599
you know and i've i've

1049
00:40:24,069 --> 00:40:21,920
searched your blog any number of times

1050
00:40:24,950 --> 00:40:24,079
but in the course of doing research and

1051
00:40:27,670 --> 00:40:24,960
i can

1052
00:40:30,710 --> 00:40:27,680
you know

1053
00:40:31,910 --> 00:40:30,720
pretty thoroughly that uh i have

1054
00:40:34,470 --> 00:40:31,920
no

1055
00:40:37,030 --> 00:40:34,480
encounters of

1056
00:40:39,109 --> 00:40:37,040
man-wolf type creatures being seen in

1057
00:40:43,349 --> 00:40:39,119
the vicinity of the ufo or any other

1058
00:40:45,030 --> 00:40:43,359
kind of craft the thing that seems to be

1059
00:40:46,790 --> 00:40:45,040
the the linking

1060
00:40:49,990 --> 00:40:46,800
phenomena for

1061
00:40:50,870 --> 00:40:50,000
the dog man or man wolf is is uh burial

1062
00:40:56,870 --> 00:40:50,880
sites

1063
00:40:59,270 --> 00:40:56,880
burial mounds

1064
00:41:01,270 --> 00:40:59,280
um so yes that's my other book one of my

1065
00:41:04,550 --> 00:41:01,280
other books

1066
00:41:06,870 --> 00:41:04,560
i i have got several stories of uh

1067
00:41:09,190 --> 00:41:06,880
cryptic canines being around

1068
00:41:10,309 --> 00:41:09,200
uh ojibwe

1069
00:41:11,190 --> 00:41:10,319
when

1070
00:41:14,150 --> 00:41:11,200
uh

1071
00:41:16,550 --> 00:41:14,160
burial sites up in up in ontario yeah

1072
00:41:18,150 --> 00:41:16,560
and and then down in in the states

1073
00:41:19,030 --> 00:41:18,160
there's the uh

1074
00:41:23,829 --> 00:41:19,040
the

1075
00:41:25,910 --> 00:41:23,839
forth

1076
00:41:27,190 --> 00:41:25,920
um you know in fact one of linda

1077
00:41:29,670 --> 00:41:27,200
godfrey's

1078
00:41:31,430 --> 00:41:29,680
earliest historical cases was in the

1079
00:41:33,349 --> 00:41:31,440
early

1080
00:41:36,069 --> 00:41:33,359
say 1930s

1081
00:41:40,150 --> 00:41:36,079
um where fellow was

1082
00:41:44,550 --> 00:41:42,470
bit of residential school or

1083
00:41:46,230 --> 00:41:44,560
i don't remember exactly what it was i'm

1084
00:41:47,510 --> 00:41:46,240
pulling this from memory

1085
00:41:50,470 --> 00:41:47,520
um

1086
00:41:53,030 --> 00:41:50,480
but comes across something digging in

1087
00:41:54,550 --> 00:41:53,040
what later proved to be a burial mound

1088
00:41:56,550 --> 00:41:54,560
yeah and uh

1089
00:41:58,230 --> 00:41:56,560
you know he he approaches this thing

1090
00:42:00,150 --> 00:41:58,240
with this flashlight in hand and shines

1091
00:42:02,710 --> 00:42:00,160
a light on and comes face to face with

1092
00:42:04,470 --> 00:42:02,720
an upright cane

1093
00:42:06,069 --> 00:42:04,480
which of course scared the jabbers out

1094
00:42:09,829 --> 00:42:06,079
of him especially when it looked at him

1095
00:42:12,710 --> 00:42:09,839
and said something like bedara

1096
00:42:15,270 --> 00:42:12,720
we don't have many reports of van wolf

1097
00:42:18,230 --> 00:42:15,280
creatures talking but that's one that

1098
00:42:21,670 --> 00:42:18,240
that godfrey mentions yeah if you if you

1099
00:42:23,670 --> 00:42:21,680
watch the uh the film that um

1100
00:42:25,589 --> 00:42:23,680
that uh

1101
00:42:27,270 --> 00:42:25,599
small town monster did

1102
00:42:29,270 --> 00:42:27,280
with linda was in she did she did

1103
00:42:31,109 --> 00:42:29,280
discuss that oh yeah that case in

1104
00:42:32,550 --> 00:42:31,119
particular was pretty interesting

1105
00:42:33,910 --> 00:42:32,560
yeah that case is really interesting

1106
00:42:35,270 --> 00:42:33,920
that the

1107
00:42:37,190 --> 00:42:35,280
picture you were just showing was an

1108
00:42:39,270 --> 00:42:37,200
illustration of one of the uh yeah

1109
00:42:40,790 --> 00:42:39,280
that's one of our illustrations yeah

1110
00:42:42,870 --> 00:42:40,800
yeah it's one of her illustrations of

1111
00:42:45,270 --> 00:42:42,880
beast debris roadsiding where the the

1112
00:42:47,430 --> 00:42:45,280
canid was supposed to be

1113
00:42:50,710 --> 00:42:47,440
dining on roadkill basically which seems

1114
00:42:53,109 --> 00:42:50,720
to be a thing up in in wisconsin

1115
00:42:54,230 --> 00:42:53,119
but uh you know we get out of it though

1116
00:42:55,589 --> 00:42:54,240
sorry

1117
00:42:57,190 --> 00:42:55,599
do what

1118
00:42:59,270 --> 00:42:57,200
what do you think they get out of it you

1119
00:43:01,190 --> 00:42:59,280
know going and digging into burial

1120
00:43:03,270 --> 00:43:01,200
mounds and things like that what do you

1121
00:43:05,030 --> 00:43:03,280
think they're trying to get out of it

1122
00:43:07,510 --> 00:43:05,040
i think that

1123
00:43:12,550 --> 00:43:09,589
and this is where you know people are

1124
00:43:14,550 --> 00:43:12,560
going to accuse me of being woo but

1125
00:43:17,589 --> 00:43:14,560
i think that the

1126
00:43:19,910 --> 00:43:17,599
worry about that like i said an animist

1127
00:43:21,990 --> 00:43:19,920
here i

1128
00:43:23,910 --> 00:43:22,000
believe that we are surrounded by a

1129
00:43:25,270 --> 00:43:23,920
world full of spirits

1130
00:43:27,270 --> 00:43:25,280
and that some of those spirits have the

1131
00:43:29,670 --> 00:43:27,280
capability to move back and forth

1132
00:43:32,470 --> 00:43:29,680
between their reality and ours

1133
00:43:35,030 --> 00:43:32,480
um i think the the manual for dog man is

1134
00:43:37,109 --> 00:43:35,040
is actually uh something that has either

1135
00:43:39,430 --> 00:43:37,119
been created or

1136
00:43:41,910 --> 00:43:39,440
invoked by a

1137
00:43:44,470 --> 00:43:41,920
native uh medicine people

1138
00:43:46,069 --> 00:43:44,480
to guard those burial mounds

1139
00:43:47,750 --> 00:43:46,079
um and

1140
00:43:49,589 --> 00:43:47,760
you know they've probably lost some

1141
00:43:50,390 --> 00:43:49,599
power over the years

1142
00:43:52,390 --> 00:43:50,400
but

1143
00:43:54,069 --> 00:43:52,400
they're still

1144
00:43:56,470 --> 00:43:54,079
you know you notice that in most of

1145
00:43:58,390 --> 00:43:56,480
these man wolf sightings the thing will

1146
00:44:01,910 --> 00:43:58,400
charge people it will

1147
00:44:04,390 --> 00:44:01,920
growl people scare the jesus out of them

1148
00:44:07,430 --> 00:44:04,400
but their godfrey makes a point of

1149
00:44:09,589 --> 00:44:07,440
saying that she has only one case where

1150
00:44:12,230 --> 00:44:09,599
and that was in canada actually

1151
00:44:13,750 --> 00:44:12,240
only one case where a man wolf actually

1152
00:44:15,589 --> 00:44:13,760
injured somebody

1153
00:44:17,750 --> 00:44:15,599
you know it'll chase people up trees and

1154
00:44:19,589 --> 00:44:17,760
it's obvious from the way people

1155
00:44:22,630 --> 00:44:19,599
describe this creature that if it wanted

1156
00:44:24,550 --> 00:44:22,640
to catch you it could you know its

1157
00:44:26,950 --> 00:44:24,560
object is to scare you away from

1158
00:44:30,150 --> 00:44:26,960
whatever it is that it's protecting

1159
00:44:33,030 --> 00:44:30,160
whether that's a piece of land or a

1160
00:44:34,470 --> 00:44:33,040
burial site or or whatever

1161
00:44:37,030 --> 00:44:34,480
um

1162
00:44:38,630 --> 00:44:37,040
it's it's goal seems to be to get you to

1163
00:44:41,510 --> 00:44:38,640
go away

1164
00:44:44,630 --> 00:44:41,520
um the the the uh the gentleman in

1165
00:44:46,390 --> 00:44:44,640
quebec uh actually emailed godfrey and

1166
00:44:48,230 --> 00:44:46,400
said that he'd been on a hike in a

1167
00:44:50,630 --> 00:44:48,240
wilderness area in quebec and he'd

1168
00:44:53,109 --> 00:44:50,640
encountered one of these creatures

1169
00:44:55,750 --> 00:44:53,119
and uh it charged down the path toward

1170
00:44:56,790 --> 00:44:55,760
him and grazed him with a fang as it

1171
00:44:58,470 --> 00:44:56,800
went by

1172
00:45:01,030 --> 00:44:58,480
so it was

1173
00:45:03,190 --> 00:45:01,040
almost accidental right

1174
00:45:05,430 --> 00:45:03,200
left a four inch gash in his hip and he

1175
00:45:07,349 --> 00:45:05,440
told the the rangers and the doctors and

1176
00:45:09,030 --> 00:45:07,359
stuff that he'd been attacked by a bear

1177
00:45:11,750 --> 00:45:09,040
because he didn't tell him what he

1178
00:45:13,750 --> 00:45:11,760
actually saw

1179
00:45:15,990 --> 00:45:13,760
godfrey tried to to get further

1180
00:45:17,990 --> 00:45:16,000
information from this fella but

1181
00:45:19,670 --> 00:45:18,000
he wasn't forthcoming and you know how

1182
00:45:21,430 --> 00:45:19,680
it is sometimes somebody will email you

1183
00:45:23,349 --> 00:45:21,440
i saw this thing and this is what

1184
00:45:27,589 --> 00:45:23,359
happened and then you you get

1185
00:45:29,750 --> 00:45:27,599
you know avoid silence after that

1186
00:45:32,390 --> 00:45:29,760
but that's the only

1187
00:45:35,910 --> 00:45:32,400
case that godfrey reported and the only

1188
00:45:38,630 --> 00:45:35,920
case that i can that i've seen

1189
00:45:40,790 --> 00:45:38,640
where someone was actually injured by a

1190
00:45:42,309 --> 00:45:40,800
man wolf now

1191
00:45:43,589 --> 00:45:42,319
we know that

1192
00:45:45,670 --> 00:45:43,599
there are

1193
00:45:49,670 --> 00:45:45,680
lots of instances of people actually

1194
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:53,510
and we don't know what causes that

1195
00:45:59,510 --> 00:45:55,589
so we can't say for sure that these

1196
00:46:03,030 --> 00:46:01,030
harmless

1197
00:46:04,870 --> 00:46:03,040
um and i sure as heck would want to run

1198
00:46:06,950 --> 00:46:04,880
into one when it decided to do that

1199
00:46:09,430 --> 00:46:06,960
bluff charge thing i i'll be honest with

1200
00:46:11,829 --> 00:46:09,440
you it's one crypt that i have no desire

1201
00:46:14,550 --> 00:46:11,839
to be in front of yeah yeah

1202
00:46:17,190 --> 00:46:14,560
so my story i've heard around here

1203
00:46:19,349 --> 00:46:17,200
literally it's just terrifying yeah if i

1204
00:46:21,109 --> 00:46:19,359
could watch it from a deer blind up high

1205
00:46:23,270 --> 00:46:21,119
somewhere where i knew it couldn't get

1206
00:46:25,990 --> 00:46:23,280
to me and i had a nice set of binoculars

1207
00:46:26,950 --> 00:46:26,000
and i could scope it i'd be very happy

1208
00:46:28,710 --> 00:46:26,960
with that

1209
00:46:30,950 --> 00:46:28,720
i don't want to get into close proximity

1210
00:46:33,030 --> 00:46:30,960
well i mean i've had i've had hunters

1211
00:46:35,829 --> 00:46:33,040
who've been in deer blinds and i'm

1212
00:46:38,230 --> 00:46:35,839
afraid to take a shot at it oh yeah yeah

1213
00:46:40,390 --> 00:46:38,240
well i mean for one thing

1214
00:46:41,270 --> 00:46:40,400
why would you well that's true i mean

1215
00:46:42,470 --> 00:46:41,280
there's

1216
00:46:44,069 --> 00:46:42,480
know i mean

1217
00:46:45,589 --> 00:46:44,079
do you really want to take a chance at

1218
00:46:47,430 --> 00:46:45,599
ticking this thing off well it's just

1219
00:46:49,109 --> 00:46:47,440
like anybody with a bigfoot i mean i

1220
00:46:50,710 --> 00:46:49,119
wouldn't even dream of doing that and

1221
00:46:52,790 --> 00:46:50,720
i've been encounter i've encountered one

1222
00:46:55,589 --> 00:46:52,800
and i if i had a gun i'd never shot this

1223
00:46:58,309 --> 00:46:55,599
thing yeah yeah and and the people who

1224
00:47:00,309 --> 00:46:58,319
claim to have actually shot one

1225
00:47:01,510 --> 00:47:00,319
almost invariably this is one of the

1226
00:47:03,750 --> 00:47:01,520
things that i

1227
00:47:06,550 --> 00:47:03,760
and i'll talk just for a minute i i

1228
00:47:08,950 --> 00:47:06,560
actually am as i said working on a

1229
00:47:10,790 --> 00:47:08,960
book about sasquatch in canada

1230
00:47:12,710 --> 00:47:10,800
um and some of the sightings that happen

1231
00:47:14,550 --> 00:47:12,720
outside of british columbia

1232
00:47:17,670 --> 00:47:14,560
one of the things that struck me was

1233
00:47:20,150 --> 00:47:17,680
that there is one story there will be

1234
00:47:21,349 --> 00:47:20,160
one story in this book about someone who

1235
00:47:25,030 --> 00:47:21,359
actually

1236
00:47:26,790 --> 00:47:25,040
uh claimed to have killed a sasquatch

1237
00:47:28,230 --> 00:47:26,800
by accident he thought it was a moose he

1238
00:47:30,549 --> 00:47:28,240
thought it was the back end of a moose

1239
00:47:32,950 --> 00:47:30,559
and he and he fired on it

1240
00:47:34,950 --> 00:47:32,960
he was a 17 year old you know new to

1241
00:47:38,549 --> 00:47:34,960
hunting you know

1242
00:47:39,589 --> 00:47:38,559
got excited and shot this thing and

1243
00:47:41,109 --> 00:47:39,599
you know

1244
00:47:43,190 --> 00:47:41,119
this was

1245
00:47:45,349 --> 00:47:43,200
right after world war ii

1246
00:47:48,309 --> 00:47:45,359
and um

1247
00:47:50,630 --> 00:47:48,319
he claims that you know he he bought

1248
00:47:53,430 --> 00:47:50,640
this this creature down one single shot

1249
00:47:54,870 --> 00:47:53,440
um it had hit it in the spine

1250
00:47:57,829 --> 00:47:54,880
um

1251
00:47:59,270 --> 00:47:57,839
of course you know he was hunting moose

1252
00:48:01,030 --> 00:47:59,280
illegally

1253
00:48:03,430 --> 00:48:01,040
so he did

1254
00:48:06,950 --> 00:48:03,440
and he was afraid that he had killed you

1255
00:48:09,270 --> 00:48:06,960
know like a wild man or a feral human

1256
00:48:11,109 --> 00:48:09,280
so he just backed away from this and

1257
00:48:14,950 --> 00:48:11,119
went his way and didn't tell his story

1258
00:48:19,190 --> 00:48:15,910
so

1259
00:48:21,030 --> 00:48:19,200
the times that i've seen that people

1260
00:48:22,390 --> 00:48:21,040
claim to have shot one of these things

1261
00:48:23,190 --> 00:48:22,400
it's been

1262
00:48:25,829 --> 00:48:23,200
you know

1263
00:48:27,589 --> 00:48:25,839
basically a case of mistaken identity if

1264
00:48:29,510 --> 00:48:27,599
you actually

1265
00:48:30,950 --> 00:48:29,520
get face to face with one and put a

1266
00:48:33,030 --> 00:48:30,960
scope on it

1267
00:48:35,589 --> 00:48:33,040
i have yet to encounter a story where

1268
00:48:37,829 --> 00:48:35,599
the hunter could pull a trigger

1269
00:48:39,910 --> 00:48:37,839
because they claim that they they look

1270
00:48:42,069 --> 00:48:39,920
too human to shoot

1271
00:48:44,309 --> 00:48:42,079
you know yeah

1272
00:48:47,109 --> 00:48:44,319
you know i could attest to that

1273
00:48:48,549 --> 00:48:47,119
yeah i kind of tested that

1274
00:48:51,589 --> 00:48:48,559
i mean i haven't actually run into a

1275
00:48:54,710 --> 00:48:51,599
bigfoot but i i can't uh

1276
00:48:56,390 --> 00:48:54,720
i can't imagine that i could could

1277
00:48:58,470 --> 00:48:56,400
could do that

1278
00:48:59,990 --> 00:48:58,480
i can't imagine that i could shoot one

1279
00:49:02,950 --> 00:49:00,000
but first of all because i don't think

1280
00:49:05,510 --> 00:49:02,960
it would do anything

1281
00:49:08,630 --> 00:49:05,520
but secondly uh you know i mean in the

1282
00:49:10,630 --> 00:49:08,640
event that you could bring one down

1283
00:49:14,230 --> 00:49:10,640
i just don't i

1284
00:49:18,549 --> 00:49:16,309
i just can't imagine myself doing that

1285
00:49:19,750 --> 00:49:18,559
yeah i know that a lot of people claim

1286
00:49:22,710 --> 00:49:19,760
that you know the only way you're going

1287
00:49:24,950 --> 00:49:22,720
to prove that the sasquatch exists is to

1288
00:49:25,750 --> 00:49:24,960
to do the uh you know bring the body in

1289
00:49:27,430 --> 00:49:25,760
and

1290
00:49:29,589 --> 00:49:27,440
i wish them good luck

1291
00:49:30,710 --> 00:49:29,599
i i don't think it's it's gonna be hard

1292
00:49:32,390 --> 00:49:30,720
to do

1293
00:49:34,549 --> 00:49:32,400
yeah i got a question here from thomas

1294
00:49:37,910 --> 00:49:34,559
carroll and going back to the the uh

1295
00:49:41,990 --> 00:49:37,920
canines uh sure could some man wolf even

1296
00:49:44,630 --> 00:49:43,109
uh

1297
00:49:45,670 --> 00:49:44,640
okay so

1298
00:49:48,230 --> 00:49:45,680
you know

1299
00:49:50,309 --> 00:49:48,240
to answer that question

1300
00:49:52,150 --> 00:49:50,319
um

1301
00:49:53,670 --> 00:49:52,160
you have to know something about magical

1302
00:49:56,829 --> 00:49:53,680
theory

1303
00:50:02,069 --> 00:49:56,839
um now anybody who's interested

1304
00:50:04,870 --> 00:50:02,079
in the interface between magic and

1305
00:50:07,190 --> 00:50:04,880
paranormal uh and these beings that we

1306
00:50:10,150 --> 00:50:07,200
see out there

1307
00:50:12,710 --> 00:50:10,160
i highly recommend a book called

1308
00:50:15,109 --> 00:50:12,720
monsters an investigator or a field

1309
00:50:17,349 --> 00:50:15,119
investigator's guide to magical beings

1310
00:50:18,470 --> 00:50:17,359
by john michael greer

1311
00:50:20,069 --> 00:50:18,480
um

1312
00:50:22,630 --> 00:50:20,079
even if you don't agree with everything

1313
00:50:24,870 --> 00:50:22,640
greer says and and i don't

1314
00:50:27,430 --> 00:50:24,880
that book will give you a completely

1315
00:50:29,430 --> 00:50:27,440
different idea about some of the stuff

1316
00:50:31,430 --> 00:50:29,440
that people are seeing out there

1317
00:50:33,430 --> 00:50:31,440
he talks about vampires he talks about

1318
00:50:35,109 --> 00:50:33,440
werewolves and

1319
00:50:37,190 --> 00:50:35,119
he talks about

1320
00:50:39,829 --> 00:50:37,200
mermaids and all kinds of other stuff

1321
00:50:41,510 --> 00:50:39,839
angels demons ghosts all those kinds of

1322
00:50:44,390 --> 00:50:41,520
things

1323
00:50:46,230 --> 00:50:45,510
greer

1324
00:50:49,270 --> 00:50:46,240
uh

1325
00:50:52,150 --> 00:50:49,280
talking about um

1326
00:50:56,309 --> 00:50:52,160
talking about werewolves particularly

1327
00:50:59,510 --> 00:50:56,319
has a theory that um

1328
00:51:00,870 --> 00:50:59,520
there are people who have an ability to

1329
00:51:02,710 --> 00:51:00,880
create

1330
00:51:04,390 --> 00:51:02,720
an etheric shell

1331
00:51:07,030 --> 00:51:04,400
around themselves

1332
00:51:09,109 --> 00:51:07,040
now the etheric layer of reality is the

1333
00:51:10,630 --> 00:51:09,119
layer just beyond

1334
00:51:11,510 --> 00:51:10,640
the layer that we're sitting in right

1335
00:51:13,750 --> 00:51:11,520
now

1336
00:51:15,750 --> 00:51:13,760
and it's a um

1337
00:51:16,790 --> 00:51:15,760
basically it's the matrix

1338
00:51:17,589 --> 00:51:16,800
that

1339
00:51:21,109 --> 00:51:17,599
you know

1340
00:51:23,270 --> 00:51:21,119
creation pours energy into to form

1341
00:51:25,670 --> 00:51:23,280
our physical reality

1342
00:51:28,470 --> 00:51:25,680
so there are certain people who have the

1343
00:51:30,309 --> 00:51:28,480
magical ability to or have been taught

1344
00:51:32,710 --> 00:51:30,319
the magical ability to

1345
00:51:35,190 --> 00:51:32,720
create an etheric shell that has a

1346
00:51:38,549 --> 00:51:35,200
particular form to it

1347
00:51:39,349 --> 00:51:38,559
and it's actually possible for

1348
00:51:41,430 --> 00:51:39,359
uh

1349
00:51:43,190 --> 00:51:41,440
someone to form a

1350
00:51:47,829 --> 00:51:43,200
an etheric shell that looks like what we

1351
00:51:51,349 --> 00:51:49,829
could you do that by cursing somebody

1352
00:51:54,790 --> 00:51:51,359
else

1353
00:51:58,150 --> 00:51:54,800
i think that's probably a stretch

1354
00:52:00,390 --> 00:51:58,160
but it it might be that some of the

1355
00:52:03,270 --> 00:52:00,400
people the things that people are seeing

1356
00:52:05,349 --> 00:52:03,280
out there that you know are

1357
00:52:07,270 --> 00:52:05,359
you know look like a werewolf that

1358
00:52:09,910 --> 00:52:07,280
people say look like a werewolf actually

1359
00:52:12,470 --> 00:52:09,920
are people that are have this ability

1360
00:52:15,829 --> 00:52:12,480
um we saw you know in the spiritualists

1361
00:52:19,109 --> 00:52:15,839
and these physical medium period that

1362
00:52:23,109 --> 00:52:19,119
you know they use this sort of ether or

1363
00:52:23,119 --> 00:52:27,030
i need a paranormalist

1364
00:52:31,589 --> 00:52:28,790
ectoplasm

1365
00:52:33,829 --> 00:52:31,599
you know to form a

1366
00:52:35,829 --> 00:52:33,839
hands and things like that that they

1367
00:52:37,109 --> 00:52:35,839
could actually do hand prints with and

1368
00:52:39,670 --> 00:52:37,119
stuff like that

1369
00:52:42,870 --> 00:52:39,680
it's the same kind of idea

1370
00:52:44,710 --> 00:52:42,880
so it's possible that there's a magical

1371
00:52:47,510 --> 00:52:44,720
interface with some of these manual

1372
00:52:48,870 --> 00:52:47,520
sightings but like i said i i personally

1373
00:52:51,349 --> 00:52:48,880
think it's some kind of a spiritual

1374
00:52:53,670 --> 00:52:51,359
being that walks uh you know between the

1375
00:52:55,829 --> 00:52:53,680
worlds and is capable of manifesting on

1376
00:52:58,069 --> 00:52:55,839
our plane well you know i think most

1377
00:53:00,870 --> 00:52:58,079
cryptids are for the most part um you

1378
00:53:02,549 --> 00:53:00,880
know i think there there is a definite

1379
00:53:03,910 --> 00:53:02,559
supernatural aspect to most of these

1380
00:53:05,510 --> 00:53:03,920
things of course i i believe there are

1381
00:53:07,589 --> 00:53:05,520
areas where they

1382
00:53:09,829 --> 00:53:07,599
are indigenous and they're but with

1383
00:53:11,910 --> 00:53:09,839
people i think people are seeing

1384
00:53:13,750 --> 00:53:11,920
let's say around this area i think i

1385
00:53:14,950 --> 00:53:13,760
don't i just don't have not seen the

1386
00:53:16,390 --> 00:53:14,960
evidence that there's a place where

1387
00:53:18,710 --> 00:53:16,400
they're actually

1388
00:53:20,790 --> 00:53:18,720
living at or uh you know there's

1389
00:53:22,470 --> 00:53:20,800
something else going on

1390
00:53:24,230 --> 00:53:22,480
and look we're working on four four

1391
00:53:27,510 --> 00:53:24,240
cases here in pennsylvania right now

1392
00:53:30,470 --> 00:53:27,520
canada's oh yeah yeah and i i it's just

1393
00:53:33,910 --> 00:53:30,480
hard for me to imagine

1394
00:53:35,750 --> 00:53:33,920
that you know when these things manifest

1395
00:53:37,030 --> 00:53:35,760
they are seen but there's something else

1396
00:53:38,950 --> 00:53:37,040
that

1397
00:53:40,549 --> 00:53:38,960
you know where they cloak or somehow go

1398
00:53:42,950 --> 00:53:40,559
into another

1399
00:53:45,030 --> 00:53:42,960
dimension or some something that's just

1400
00:53:46,870 --> 00:53:45,040
keeping that from being seen yeah i

1401
00:53:49,589 --> 00:53:46,880
think that's i think that's a lot of

1402
00:53:51,270 --> 00:53:49,599
what's really going on

1403
00:53:52,549 --> 00:53:51,280
yeah because i mean you know it's it's

1404
00:53:55,190 --> 00:53:52,559
almost like

1405
00:53:57,750 --> 00:53:55,200
i've noticed that you've had this this

1406
00:53:59,430 --> 00:53:57,760
surface of sightings in pennsylvania

1407
00:54:01,030 --> 00:53:59,440
um it's almost like somebody opened a

1408
00:54:03,430 --> 00:54:01,040
portal on

1409
00:54:06,069 --> 00:54:03,440
on chestnut ridge or something and it's

1410
00:54:08,150 --> 00:54:06,079
been crazy yeah um

1411
00:54:09,910 --> 00:54:08,160
yeah and that's another

1412
00:54:11,910 --> 00:54:09,920
you know another thing that i bring out

1413
00:54:14,309 --> 00:54:11,920
i talk about a little bit in the in my

1414
00:54:16,069 --> 00:54:14,319
black dog book for instance the idea

1415
00:54:17,589 --> 00:54:16,079
that

1416
00:54:19,910 --> 00:54:17,599
we're in a

1417
00:54:22,230 --> 00:54:19,920
renaissance of

1418
00:54:24,630 --> 00:54:22,240
magical practitioners right now if you

1419
00:54:27,270 --> 00:54:24,640
walk into a bookstore

1420
00:54:29,349 --> 00:54:27,280
almost any large you know barnes and

1421
00:54:30,790 --> 00:54:29,359
noble or what do we have we have

1422
00:54:31,910 --> 00:54:30,800
chapters up here

1423
00:54:33,349 --> 00:54:31,920
um

1424
00:54:35,510 --> 00:54:33,359
bookstore

1425
00:54:38,390 --> 00:54:35,520
you know they have an occult section or

1426
00:54:41,430 --> 00:54:38,400
an esoteric section that has books on

1427
00:54:43,270 --> 00:54:41,440
ceremonial magic and wicca and santeria

1428
00:54:45,589 --> 00:54:43,280
and all kinds of other things

1429
00:54:47,109 --> 00:54:45,599
other magical styles that people can get

1430
00:54:50,069 --> 00:54:47,119
involved in

1431
00:54:54,230 --> 00:54:52,230
some people don't take this as

1432
00:54:55,589 --> 00:54:54,240
these kinds of practices as seriously as

1433
00:54:57,829 --> 00:54:55,599
they ought to

1434
00:54:59,750 --> 00:54:57,839
and they don't practice good hygiene um

1435
00:55:01,750 --> 00:54:59,760
they don't open their doors and close

1436
00:55:05,589 --> 00:55:01,760
their doors as they ought to

1437
00:55:06,549 --> 00:55:05,599
yeah the 72 seals of the croatia

1438
00:55:08,630 --> 00:55:06,559
so

1439
00:55:09,990 --> 00:55:08,640
um

1440
00:55:12,950 --> 00:55:10,000
they don't open their doors and then

1441
00:55:15,349 --> 00:55:12,960
close their doors as they ought to and

1442
00:55:17,510 --> 00:55:15,359
one of my theories is that you know if

1443
00:55:21,270 --> 00:55:17,520
you have that sort of thing happening on

1444
00:55:23,430 --> 00:55:21,280
a regular basis you create um

1445
00:55:25,030 --> 00:55:23,440
weak spots in the veil between the

1446
00:55:28,870 --> 00:55:25,040
worlds and

1447
00:55:32,150 --> 00:55:30,150
oh no

1448
00:55:34,870 --> 00:55:32,160
did we just lose him

1449
00:55:39,430 --> 00:55:34,880
awesome nope here i am yeah i don't i

1450
00:55:43,349 --> 00:55:41,349
yeah it was i i walked through one of

1451
00:55:46,069 --> 00:55:43,359
those doors by accident i had to come

1452
00:55:49,190 --> 00:55:46,079
back yeah he did

1453
00:55:51,589 --> 00:55:49,200
oh god i also don't think it's only like

1454
00:55:53,829 --> 00:55:51,599
the bookstores

1455
00:55:55,990 --> 00:55:53,839
oh sorry i only don't think it's the

1456
00:55:57,750 --> 00:55:56,000
bookstores but also tick tock like it's

1457
00:56:02,710 --> 00:55:57,760
all over tick tock

1458
00:56:05,430 --> 00:56:02,720
or well i i use bookstores as an example

1459
00:56:07,349 --> 00:56:05,440
there is so much media available now you

1460
00:56:10,150 --> 00:56:07,359
know you can go to

1461
00:56:12,069 --> 00:56:10,160
websites you can uh learn magical

1462
00:56:13,670 --> 00:56:12,079
practices

1463
00:56:15,349 --> 00:56:13,680
all kinds of different ways there's and

1464
00:56:17,910 --> 00:56:15,359
there are the tick tock witches and

1465
00:56:20,549 --> 00:56:17,920
there's you know there's a wide vast

1466
00:56:21,750 --> 00:56:20,559
community of magical practitioners on

1467
00:56:24,230 --> 00:56:21,760
twitter

1468
00:56:26,710 --> 00:56:24,240
um you know i know some of those folks

1469
00:56:29,109 --> 00:56:26,720
so yeah i mean there's all kinds of

1470
00:56:30,390 --> 00:56:29,119
information out there

1471
00:56:32,950 --> 00:56:30,400
and unfortunately some of that

1472
00:56:34,549 --> 00:56:32,960
information is

1473
00:56:39,910 --> 00:56:34,559
not

1474
00:56:41,349 --> 00:56:39,920
complete

1475
00:56:43,750 --> 00:56:41,359
um

1476
00:56:45,990 --> 00:56:43,760
so you know as i say there's there's all

1477
00:56:48,069 --> 00:56:46,000
kinds of opportunities for

1478
00:56:50,230 --> 00:56:48,079
you know people to create these weak

1479
00:56:52,309 --> 00:56:50,240
spots in the veil and then

1480
00:56:55,030 --> 00:56:52,319
who knows what you end up with depends

1481
00:56:56,870 --> 00:56:55,040
on where that weak spot happens to be it

1482
00:56:58,950 --> 00:56:56,880
happens it definitely it definitely

1483
00:57:01,430 --> 00:56:58,960
happens well i mean look at the navajo

1484
00:57:04,710 --> 00:57:01,440
reservation yeah and now i'm getting

1485
00:57:06,710 --> 00:57:04,720
completely off canada again

1486
00:57:07,430 --> 00:57:06,720
i mean look at the navajo reservation i

1487
00:57:08,950 --> 00:57:07,440
mean

1488
00:57:12,710 --> 00:57:08,960
you knew um

1489
00:57:14,390 --> 00:57:12,720
uh do you see it 4k yeah jc um

1490
00:57:15,349 --> 00:57:14,400
four corners uh

1491
00:57:18,470 --> 00:57:15,359
people

1492
00:57:21,109 --> 00:57:18,480
um you know he had all kinds of wild

1493
00:57:23,990 --> 00:57:21,119
stuff that was reported to him up there

1494
00:57:27,270 --> 00:57:24,000
you know centaurs and dinosaurs and you

1495
00:57:29,910 --> 00:57:27,280
know giant birds and dog men and all

1496
00:57:31,829 --> 00:57:29,920
kinds of things bigfoot that that

1497
00:57:33,510 --> 00:57:31,839
disappeared in the middle of cornfields

1498
00:57:34,390 --> 00:57:33,520
and all kinds of things

1499
00:57:36,549 --> 00:57:34,400
yeah

1500
00:57:38,150 --> 00:57:36,559
and what do we have in that area

1501
00:57:39,990 --> 00:57:38,160
skinwalker ranch same thing what do we

1502
00:57:41,349 --> 00:57:40,000
have in that area we have a long

1503
00:57:43,510 --> 00:57:41,359
tradition

1504
00:57:45,030 --> 00:57:43,520
of native people doing ceremonies in

1505
00:57:47,510 --> 00:57:45,040
those areas

1506
00:57:49,750 --> 00:57:47,520
yeah and even if you do do your things

1507
00:57:52,150 --> 00:57:49,760
absolutely correctly if you keep doing

1508
00:57:53,670 --> 00:57:52,160
magic in the same place for long enough

1509
00:57:56,630 --> 00:57:53,680
period of time

1510
00:57:58,870 --> 00:57:56,640
you know you there's going to be that

1511
00:58:00,950 --> 00:57:58,880
kind of weakness between

1512
00:58:03,430 --> 00:58:00,960
the worlds that that weakness and the

1513
00:58:05,430 --> 00:58:03,440
veil between the world and so

1514
00:58:07,270 --> 00:58:05,440
you know it's been my theory for quite a

1515
00:58:09,349 --> 00:58:07,280
while that some of the wild things that

1516
00:58:12,309 --> 00:58:09,359
we end up seeing

1517
00:58:14,630 --> 00:58:12,319
you know or people end up seeing or

1518
00:58:15,829 --> 00:58:14,640
the result of things like that yeah yeah

1519
00:58:17,030 --> 00:58:15,839
something i agree

1520
00:58:18,950 --> 00:58:17,040
with something

1521
00:58:19,670 --> 00:58:18,960
something that popped through and said

1522
00:58:21,750 --> 00:58:19,680
hi

1523
00:58:24,950 --> 00:58:21,760
i'm a centaur and it popped back to

1524
00:58:27,430 --> 00:58:24,960
wherever it came from yep yeah

1525
00:58:28,549 --> 00:58:27,440
so um travis before we go why don't you

1526
00:58:30,309 --> 00:58:28,559
tell the folks how they can get in

1527
00:58:32,150 --> 00:58:30,319
contact with you and where they can get

1528
00:58:33,990 --> 00:58:32,160
your new book and anything else you want

1529
00:58:35,670 --> 00:58:34,000
to tell them about okay so the book is

1530
00:58:37,270 --> 00:58:35,680
canadian monsters and mysteries and we

1531
00:58:40,390 --> 00:58:37,280
actually did talk a little bit about

1532
00:58:42,950 --> 00:58:40,400
canada tonight yeah we did

1533
00:58:45,829 --> 00:58:42,960
but uh you know if you're interested in

1534
00:58:47,829 --> 00:58:45,839
uh you know ufos if you're interested in

1535
00:58:49,589 --> 00:58:47,839
lake monsters if you're interested in

1536
00:58:50,630 --> 00:58:49,599
you know phantom trains and phantom

1537
00:58:54,630 --> 00:58:50,640
ships

1538
00:58:56,710 --> 00:58:54,640
uh if you're interested in fairy lore um

1539
00:58:58,710 --> 00:58:56,720
and uh

1540
00:59:01,349 --> 00:58:58,720
you know

1541
00:59:03,349 --> 00:59:01,359
shadow people and ufos and all that sort

1542
00:59:05,510 --> 00:59:03,359
of thing there's something in this book

1543
00:59:07,190 --> 00:59:05,520
for you it's called canadian monsters

1544
00:59:09,670 --> 00:59:07,200
mysteries it's actually available on

1545
00:59:11,349 --> 00:59:09,680
amazon both as a kindle book and as a as

1546
00:59:13,589 --> 00:59:11,359
a paperback

1547
00:59:17,190 --> 00:59:13,599
if you happen to be a kindle unlimited

1548
00:59:20,150 --> 00:59:17,200
subscriber it's available on ku

1549
00:59:22,950 --> 00:59:20,160
as far as getting hold of me uh

1550
00:59:26,470 --> 00:59:22,960
i'm on facebook uh as

1551
00:59:29,109 --> 00:59:26,480
i have a wt watson author page or

1552
00:59:30,710 --> 00:59:29,119
personally as as will watson a long

1553
00:59:35,349 --> 00:59:30,720
story there

1554
00:59:38,630 --> 00:59:35,359
i'm on twitter um at wtwatson2

1555
00:59:40,789 --> 00:59:38,640
um and i'm on uh

1556
00:59:42,230 --> 00:59:40,799
what is that thing instagram

1557
00:59:44,789 --> 00:59:42,240
you know the one with pictures the one

1558
00:59:46,390 --> 00:59:44,799
with pictures um

1559
00:59:50,789 --> 00:59:46,400
there's an old handle of mine it's

1560
00:59:55,829 --> 00:59:53,829
um and i'm happy to uh you know to talk

1561
00:59:57,910 --> 00:59:55,839
to people about their experiences if

1562
01:00:01,030 --> 00:59:57,920
they like uh you know i love it when

1563
01:00:03,349 --> 01:00:01,040
people share stories with me um

1564
01:00:04,950 --> 01:00:03,359
you know but also you know you know

1565
01:00:07,430 --> 01:00:04,960
subscribe to one of my social media

1566
01:00:09,430 --> 01:00:07,440
accounts to keep the keep track of what

1567
01:00:10,630 --> 01:00:09,440
i'm doing because like i said i'm i just

1568
01:00:13,270 --> 01:00:10,640
continue to

1569
01:00:14,789 --> 01:00:13,280
put out books

1570
01:00:16,390 --> 01:00:14,799
well when the new one comes out make

1571
01:00:18,870 --> 01:00:16,400
sure you let me know again and we'll

1572
01:00:20,390 --> 01:00:18,880
have you back on talking absolutely

1573
01:00:22,549 --> 01:00:20,400
absolutely well

1574
01:00:24,870 --> 01:00:22,559
okay well you have a great weekend and

1575
01:00:28,230 --> 01:00:24,880
we'll be talking soon okay okay thanks

1576
01:00:31,430 --> 01:00:28,240
very much lon you guys take care

1577
01:00:35,670 --> 01:00:33,510
now if you have a sighting or encounter

1578
01:00:38,549 --> 01:00:35,680
report and you'd like to be considered

1579
01:00:39,990 --> 01:00:38,559
for the personal porsche or even post on

1580
01:00:42,549 --> 01:00:40,000
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1581
01:00:44,470 --> 01:00:42,559
blog say feel free to contact me through

1582
01:00:46,789 --> 01:00:44,480
my email at lawn circular fans and

1583
01:00:49,430 --> 01:00:46,799
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1584
01:00:51,270 --> 01:00:49,440
and uh once again thank wt watson for

1585
01:00:52,950 --> 01:00:51,280
joining me this evening and thanks to

1586
01:00:53,990 --> 01:00:52,960
each and all you for watching and

1587
01:00:54,870 --> 01:00:54,000
chatting

1588
01:00:56,470 --> 01:00:54,880
uh

1589
01:00:59,430 --> 01:00:56,480
you know your sport is what makes this

1590
01:01:01,430 --> 01:00:59,440
possible so please like subscribe share

1591
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and leave comments

1592
01:01:05,030 --> 01:01:02,319
uh

1593
01:01:08,710 --> 01:01:05,040
next friday we are going to have a

1594
01:01:10,870 --> 01:01:08,720
fantasy monsters 14 research round table

1595
01:01:14,230 --> 01:01:10,880
and i think right now we've got james

1596
01:01:15,910 --> 01:01:14,240
west kit taylor and uh

1597
01:01:18,069 --> 01:01:15,920
chad redding

1598
01:01:19,910 --> 01:01:18,079
uh scheduled to come on bernadette will

1599
01:01:22,390 --> 01:01:19,920
be joining us as well

1600
01:01:24,230 --> 01:01:22,400
so uh you know make sure

1601
01:01:25,750 --> 01:01:24,240
to stop in get your questions ready

1602
01:01:26,549 --> 01:01:25,760
we're probably gonna have an extended

1603
01:01:28,390 --> 01:01:26,559
show

1604
01:01:30,470 --> 01:01:28,400
so it should be interesting so until

1605
01:01:35,930 --> 01:01:30,480
next week stay healthy and have a safe